Sunday, 22 June 2008

Just a question:

Have you ever come across a situation where BOTH parents ask for a child to be made ward of court ?

15 comments:

Cláudia said...

Paulo, this is a very, very special case...

Anonymous said...

Hola Paulo !
Pero menudo par de padrazos tenemos aqui !
Esto es para perder todos los pelos de la cabeza reflexionando ...
los servicios de la infancia deciden poner una tutela sobre Madelaine que està despaparecida ...
y los gemelos ???? estos se los han dejado todavia ?? espreran a que pierdan uno para ponerlos bajo custodia ??
si no han sabido ocuparse de una niña de 3 años donde esta la garantia que sabràn hacerlo de dos de dos años y medio .........
Parece ser que hasta los servivios à la infancia miden con dos raseros diferentes !!
Un abrazo ,cuidese !

Anonymous said...

¡Que pareja más maquiavelíca¡ Menos mal que no fueron mis padres.

guerra said...

If it is true that they were the ones who asked for this, then for what purpose did they do this? In having the child made a ward of court what advantages do they gain? Does it mean that any case dealing with the child will have to be settled in England? The more I become aware of what was done and how quickly it was done, the more I start thinking that all this was thought out even before they came to Portugal. Hard to believe but who knows. Maybe this is what the police are still not sure of.

Anonymous said...

to release information to suspects is not susrely in the power of a judge, ir is it?

Anonymous said...

Sr. Reis, y los gemelos? tendrá la corte su guardia y custodia? Debemos averiguarlo. Poco se habla de éllos. Será porque vela por ellos un Tribunal ante la negligencia de unos padres irresponsables? Rosanna

Anonymous said...

Tambien me intriga la agencia española Metodo3, a la cual pagan ingentes cntidades de dinero. Ese dinero que rumbo tomará? me huele mal. La policia y sino el fisco debería investigar a esa Agencia y a ese dinero. Rosanna

Anonymous said...

Es altamente probable que los Servicios Sociales y la Policía Británica hayan tomado en septiembre del 2007 la decisión de colocar a Madeleine y a los gemelos bajo custodia. En estos momentos puede muy bien esos familiares a cargo estar viviendo con la pareja en Rothley, para guardar las apariencias.

El vocero lo ha revelado ahora, probablemente debido a que la información estaba a punto de filtrarse o porque habrá anuncios en los días venideros.

ELPAIS.com - Madrid - 13/09/2007

Los servicios sociales visitan a los McCann para decidir sobre la custodia de sus hijos

Los McCann podrían perder la tutela de los dos gemelos, Sean y Amelie

Kate y Gerry McCann, declarados sospechosos de la desaparición de su hija Madeleine por la policía portuguesa, han recibido hoy en su casa de Leicestershire la visita de los servicios sociales británicos para discutir los detalles del caso y tomar una decisión sobre la custodia de sus otros dos hijos, los gemelos Sean y Amelie, según informa Sky News.

Esta visita era previsible ya que en Reino Unido los servicios sociales están obligados a considerar el bienestar de los menores cuando los padres son sospechosos de un delito, lo que abre la posibilidad de que los McCann pierdan la tutela de sus dos hijos si hay evidencias de que están en peligro.

Con gran expectación por parte de los medios, los asistentes sociales han llegado esta tarde al domicilio de la familia McCann en Rothley (Leicestershire), si bien les habían ofrecido la posibilidad de tener la reunión en dependencias municipales.

"Ellos cooperarán con cualquiera que desee lo mejor para los intereses de la familia", ha declarado John McCann, hermano de Gerry.

Los servicios sociales se reunieron el pasado lunes con la policía británica para estudiar la situación de los gemelos debido a la nueva situación legal de la pareja.

El matrimonio continúa negando su implicación en la desaparición de su hija Madeleine el pasado 3 de mayo en el Algarve (sur de Portugal), donde la familia pasaba sus vacaciones.

Los diarios de Kate McCann

Mientras continúan las investigaciones sobre el caso Madeleine, algunos periódicos portugueses han publicado extractos de un supuesto diario de Kate McCann, que la policía habría encontrado en la casa que la familia alquiló en Portugal y al que aseguran haber tenido acceso, según publica Sky News.

Los rotativos lusos aseguran que en el diario Kate McCann habla cómo sus hijos consumen toda su energía, en especial, Maddie, que es muy activa.

guerra said...

The word instigate means urge forward or to provoke. I believe Paulo, like you said it is a carefully chosen word which is open to interpretation. They either went to the court and asked that their child be made a ward of court or their behaviour and status as arguidos instigated the court to make the child a ward of court. Mr. Mitchell could have simply stated that the couple asked that the child be made a ward of court, but because he didn't it is likely that this is another attempt to trick the public. I would say that this decision was made by the court itself when the couple returned back to England in September.

Shu said...

S.M : desculpe escrever em português.
1º- pedem ao Estado de UK(S.Sociais)que seja a entidade responsável pela Pequenina;e aos Serviços de protecção e apoio a menores são de alto gabarito=alta classe social.
2º - para disputarem a Menina se "alguém" a tiver?
3º-para darem mais força à hipótese de rapto?

4º - que o confronto entre PJ seja com o poderoso governo da UK?E não com eles!(pessoalmente parece-me mais isto).

5º os advogados sabem imenso.
(os outros comentários colocam a questão nos gémeos;mas só se lhes acontecer o mesmo e se continuarem com tanta força...)

Shu said...

Belissima análise em explendor.

lunes 23 de junio de 2008
El callejón sin salida
(continua)

Anonymous said...

Con esta solicitud a la Corte los McCann dejan claro que piensan que aquellos que pudieron haber visto a Madeleine "no quieren" comunicárselo a ellos, que son los padres.

¿Quién podría desear "no comunicar a los McCann" que vió a la desaparecida Madeleine?

Estos padres tienen una mente perversa y distorsionan los hechos y la realidad.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they just instigated Clarence Mitchell to release the fact that Madeleine was made a ward of court.

It is all in the punctuation.

They could not merchandise her (film, books) with her being a WoC.

jo said...

This is nothing else but an other spin.
The reasons for their “going to court” do not make any sense when supposidely,the files will be released on the 14th of july (?)How on earth could the release of documents would/could help in Madeleine”s search anyhow?Have not the Leicester cops said the disclosure of the files would seriously put the investigation at risk and at the same time would reveal names & identity of all the witnesses? it also means there are witnesses which have never been mentioned/unknown from the public and may be/probably from the mccanns
I believe Madeleine has been made a WOC by the social services NOT at the mccanns “instigation”.This was done back in september when they were made arguidos or official suspects in their very own child"s "disappearance". “… a source from Leicestershire County Council, contacted by telephone, refused to confirm that version, stating that, “the authorities acted in the sole interests of Madeleine.”

Courts dont work on peoples”instigation”.The High Court wont allow anything.They wont act against the cops who have an agreement with the PJ. Something else is on and clarrie had to spin something untrue as usual to deviate public"s opinion
Justice will be made to Madeleine.Te lo mereces,Madeleine

jo said...

This is nothing else but an other spin.
The reasons for their “going to court” do not make any sense when supposidely,the files will be released on the 14th of july (?)How on earth could the release of documents would/could help in Madeleine”s search?Have not the Leicester cops said the disclosure of the files would seriously put the investigation at risk and at the same time would reveal names & identity of all the witnesses? it also means there are witnesses which have never been mentioned/unknown from the public and may be from the mccanns
Madeleine has been made a WOC by the social services NOT at the mccanns “instigation”. “…but a source from Leicestershire County Council, contacted by telephone, refused to confirm that version, stating that, “the authorities acted in the sole interests of Madeleine.”

Courts dont work on peoples”instigation”.The High Court wont allow anything Something else is on and clarrie had to spin something untrue as usual